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the president fully supports senator hagel's views on this. they were the president's views, they were the views the president expressed when he ran for office in 2008 and won. they were the views that he expressed in a campaign against senator mccain who has -- who spent most of his time asking about senator hagel's views on iraq. the president promised to end that war and he did. at the time, in 2008, as i recall, senator mccain suggested we might have troops in iraq for 100 years. that's certainly not a position that president obama or then senator obama subscribed to. it's obviously not a position that senator hagel believes was the right one. and the fact that there's a disagreement over that, i think we can all pause it. what i can tell you is that the president believes that senator hagel will make an excellent secretary of defense and that he will be confirmed. and he looks forward to working with senator hagel in that position as we continue to advance our national security priorities. >> a topic that came up yesterday, today's jobs d
the president fully supports senator hagel's views on this. they were the president's views, they were the views the president expressed when he ran for office in 2008 and won. they were the views that he expressed in a campaign against senator mccain who has -- who spent most of his time asking about senator hagel's views on iraq. the president promised to end that war and he did. at the time, in 2008, as i recall, senator mccain suggested we might have troops in iraq for 100 years. that's...
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the have it tree troll against chuck hagel. is it about lyndon johnson's inability to win that war or end it? what is it that burns so deeply in john mccain today? for some reason he wants to play it again and again in iraq and afterno afghanistan and again in iran. we look at the resentment burning in john mccain's heart. it's not against george w. bush and his political henchmen who tried to stay mccain's reputation in 2000 but a guy who fear and rallied against wounds just like he did. chuck hagel, a nightmare, by the way, whose flashbacks must haunt still the heart still of john sydney mccain. both are msnbc analysts. both of you, sir, and lady, are younger than me, but i must tell you i'm absolutely convinced we're watching a flashback. watch this. he did a long angry windup before he launched into his first so-called question which was really an indictment. it included putdowns as well as references to vietnam. let's listen. >> in january of 2007 in a rather bizarre exchange with secretary rice in the foreign relations co
the have it tree troll against chuck hagel. is it about lyndon johnson's inability to win that war or end it? what is it that burns so deeply in john mccain today? for some reason he wants to play it again and again in iraq and afterno afghanistan and again in iran. we look at the resentment burning in john mccain's heart. it's not against george w. bush and his political henchmen who tried to stay mccain's reputation in 2000 but a guy who fear and rallied against wounds just like he did. chuck...
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why is he fighting hagel over vietnam? >> well, it's interesting because he's ostensibly fighting with him over iraq, but it immediately becomes over vietnam. he seems to be mad that hagel took issue with him about iraq and compared it to vietnam being the big blunder, which, of course, mccain and hagel both served in. you know, when mccain talks about iraq, all he wants to talk about is from the surge on. it's as if everything before that didn't happen and didn't count, and we can still debate whether the surge worked or not, but the bigger issue is whether iraq was as bad as vietnam, and he doesn't want to have that argument. >> here is mccain sinking his teeth into hagel's ankle here, and he wouldn't let go on the question of the iraq surge. again, what david said. let's listen again, back again to the old war. >> were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam? were you correct or incorrect? >> my -- >> yes or no. >> my referenc
why is he fighting hagel over vietnam? >> well, it's interesting because he's ostensibly fighting with him over iraq, but it immediately becomes over vietnam. he seems to be mad that hagel took issue with him about iraq and compared it to vietnam being the big blunder, which, of course, mccain and hagel both served in. you know, when mccain talks about iraq, all he wants to talk about is from the surge on. it's as if everything before that didn't happen and didn't count, and we can still...
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>> i'm told by leadership aids democratic support for hagel is still very solid. there is no heart burn. they insist nothing that happened in the hearing yesterday has a shelf life beyond today's news cycle. here's the white house take. >> i would be stunned if, in the end, republican senators chose to try to block the nomination of a decorated war veteran who was amongst among the colleagues in the senate as a republican. >> if the senate armed services committee isn't going to vote on hagel's nomination until probably next thursday, both sides have time to consider their votes. shep? >> shepard: mike emanuel on the action in the senate. what does senator geraldo sound like. is he contemplating a run for the senate seat. he would run as a republican. 89-year-old senator frank lawsuit tenburg a democrat hold the seat. is he up for election next year. hasn't confirmed whether he will run. if he does do it he could find himself up against the new york mayor cory book his or her is considering a bid. today on "studio b" geraldo said that his party needs to be more in
>> i'm told by leadership aids democratic support for hagel is still very solid. there is no heart burn. they insist nothing that happened in the hearing yesterday has a shelf life beyond today's news cycle. here's the white house take. >> i would be stunned if, in the end, republican senators chose to try to block the nomination of a decorated war veteran who was amongst among the colleagues in the senate as a republican. >> if the senate armed services committee isn't going...
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now over chuck hagel, this could be the next battle. it's a big question of whether republicans are really spoiling for that kind of unprecedented fight here. >> but we have john mccain. any other prominent republicans who may not vote for him? >> you've got about i'd say a dozen republicans right now who have come out and said they are actively opposing his nomination. none of them have said so far whether they would actually be willing to block it. the republican leader in the senate mitch mcconnell has held off right now on saying if that's an option for them. it's a big question. i think you've seen a lot of other nominees get blocked. certainly richard cordray, the appointee for the consumer financial protection bureau is not going anywhere right now. but the opposition to this kind of appointment of chuck hagel, someone who i think a lot of voters throughout the country weren't as aware of like someone like susan rice ace different question here. >> speaking of john mccain moving on to you, alice, let's take a look at these tense
now over chuck hagel, this could be the next battle. it's a big question of whether republicans are really spoiling for that kind of unprecedented fight here. >> but we have john mccain. any other prominent republicans who may not vote for him? >> you've got about i'd say a dozen republicans right now who have come out and said they are actively opposing his nomination. none of them have said so far whether they would actually be willing to block it. the republican leader in the...
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this is whether hagel is going to be secretary of defense. based on who he is and his service to the country. i never voted against israel in his 12 years in the senate. i think he is somebody who wants peace, he he is strong. he will keep us out of wars. i think that we need somebody in that position. >> here is what bill kristol wroited today, chuck hagel isn't a first rate candidate for secretary of defense. he isn't even a second rate candidate. has there ever been a more embarrassing confirmation hearing than hagel for a measure cabinet position. for a minor cabinet position or subcabinet position. we don't know of one. congressman, i understand the white house says he will probably get confirmed and, you know, i guess he will. i don't really have any inside information. they say they have a lot of yes votes. but that appearance, i don't care if you like him or got three purple hearts or no purple hearts, that appearance to me was shocking. the fact that he didn't know his -- the president of the united states policy on containment. he b
this is whether hagel is going to be secretary of defense. based on who he is and his service to the country. i never voted against israel in his 12 years in the senate. i think he is somebody who wants peace, he he is strong. he will keep us out of wars. i think that we need somebody in that position. >> here is what bill kristol wroited today, chuck hagel isn't a first rate candidate for secretary of defense. he isn't even a second rate candidate. has there ever been a more embarrassing...
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and chuck hagel does not believe that is the right one. we can all accept -- the president believes that senator hagel will make an excellent senate -- secretary of defense. he looks forward to working with senator hagel in that position as we continue to advance our national security priorities. >> the topic from yesterday. today's jobs data shows the unemployment rate rising. it has hovered in that range for a number of months. the economy created jobs. at a modest pace. we had a report recently of contraction in the nation's output in the fourth quarter of last year. there are people writing writing columns, calling for the need for a plan for faster growth, not deficit reduction. what does the president tell his advisers when he sees the signs of a sluggish recovery? what is he asking and the way of things to read recovery, create jobs, and stimulate growth? >> i will go to the narrow question first. every time he meets with his economic advisers, the focus is on job creation and economic growth. that includes when we had discussions a
and chuck hagel does not believe that is the right one. we can all accept -- the president believes that senator hagel will make an excellent senate -- secretary of defense. he looks forward to working with senator hagel in that position as we continue to advance our national security priorities. >> the topic from yesterday. today's jobs data shows the unemployment rate rising. it has hovered in that range for a number of months. the economy created jobs. at a modest pace. we had a report...
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chuck hagel was not going to give it to him. >> john mccain is not the issue, it is chuck hagel. his problem is not syntax, but elementary knowledge. he spoke about iran as a legitimately elected government. we know that the revolution of 2009 was sparked by the fact that it was a rigged election, an illegitimate economy. the clip i wanted you to show was the one in which he was asked about the policy of containment. it was not a badgering issue. he said he supports the administration's policy of containment. he then gets a note and said, i have been told i made a mistake. of course, i am not in support of that. the policy of this administration on containment is that it does not have a policy. at which point, democratic senator levin had to rescue him and said, in fact, the administration has a policy on containment, and it is to oppose it. he was clueless. >> colby. clueless? >> he was in the position where he had to dodge a little bit. let's go back to the exchange with senator mccain on the surge. the issue was never the surge when you talk about iraq. the issue was, as senat
chuck hagel was not going to give it to him. >> john mccain is not the issue, it is chuck hagel. his problem is not syntax, but elementary knowledge. he spoke about iran as a legitimately elected government. we know that the revolution of 2009 was sparked by the fact that it was a rigged election, an illegitimate economy. the clip i wanted you to show was the one in which he was asked about the policy of containment. it was not a badgering issue. he said he supports the administration's...
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he pressed hagel. take a listen. >> i would like a answer whether you are right or wrong and then you are free to elaborate. >> well, i'm not going to give you a yes or a no answer on a lot of things. >> then let the record show that you refuse to answer the question, now please go ahead. >> if you would like me to explain why -- >> i actually would like an answer. yes or no? i think history has already made a judgment about the surge, sir. and you are on the wrong side of it. >> colonel -- >> when hagel said i think i would like to explain, you know mccain does not want him to explain. he wants a yes or no answer. >> why did he shy away from doing that? >> i don't know. bob and i were talking about it before, he knew the questions were coming. he nie who was going to deliver them. he had time to rehearse. >> i think of the right answer two days after the right answer should have been given. history actually does show that the surge worked. that my vote was wrong and your vote was right. but senator mc
he pressed hagel. take a listen. >> i would like a answer whether you are right or wrong and then you are free to elaborate. >> well, i'm not going to give you a yes or a no answer on a lot of things. >> then let the record show that you refuse to answer the question, now please go ahead. >> if you would like me to explain why -- >> i actually would like an answer. yes or no? i think history has already made a judgment about the surge, sir. and you are on the wrong...
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there were two lines of attack before the hearings on hagel. one on ideology and the second on his value voter veracity. the ideology was of his views said the washington post which s not exactly a right wing rag were outside of the mainstream to the left of obama and on the fringe of the senate. that was number one. the content of his beliefs. the second is the veracity. this is a guy who said all kinds of things and hailed by those who support him as a man who speaks truth to power. a man who is fareless, who stakes out his ground. all of a sudden where there is a high position dangled before his eyes he recants on just about everything on the weeks leading up to his nomination and in the hearings. on all kinds of issues, the iranian revolutionary guards he recan'ts and recants on the stuff he said about israel. do you believe him today or do you believe him yesterday? now, the third thing which is the most damaging. he just was completely incompetent. he was incomprehensible at times and come meetly out of his depth and clueless on some issu
there were two lines of attack before the hearings on hagel. one on ideology and the second on his value voter veracity. the ideology was of his views said the washington post which s not exactly a right wing rag were outside of the mainstream to the left of obama and on the fringe of the senate. that was number one. the content of his beliefs. the second is the veracity. this is a guy who said all kinds of things and hailed by those who support him as a man who speaks truth to power. a man who...
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what are hagel's chances of winning confirmation? let's bring in the washington time's columnist charlie hurt. it's the good old boys club in the u.s. senate. he's going to get confirmed, right? >> yeah. i think that that hearing will go down as one of the worst in television history. i mean, he was unprepared. he didn't know what he was talking about. he state wrong policy at times and then when he did assert things he asitterred things that were pretty scary such as talking about how legitimate iran's government is. as you point out, it is a club and chuck hagel was once a member of the club, and as much as -- >> gregg: he wasn't a beloved member. i will say that much. a lot of people didn't like chuck hagel and he reminds a lot of folks of pig pen you know, in the peanuts cartoon, you know with the swirling cloud behind him of dirt and so on and so forth. here is a sound bite. let me play this. >> my policy has always been the same as the president's, one of prevention not of containment. by the way i've just been handed a note th
what are hagel's chances of winning confirmation? let's bring in the washington time's columnist charlie hurt. it's the good old boys club in the u.s. senate. he's going to get confirmed, right? >> yeah. i think that that hearing will go down as one of the worst in television history. i mean, he was unprepared. he didn't know what he was talking about. he state wrong policy at times and then when he did assert things he asitterred things that were pretty scary such as talking about how...
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the hearing yesterday with chuck hagel being considered for secretary of defense and you once had this cheerleading of the sanctions as if they're sacrosanct as if they're this amazing policy that have done so many good things for us when in reality if you look at the last ten years of. u.s. policy on iran we haven't actually achieved a whole lot we've done a lot of things in terms of we can iran's economy and sort of ratcheting up the pressure but iran centrifuges are still still spinning we're on the precipice of a war and now with afghanistan we're facing these really tough questions about can we continue to be anime's with iran and not engaging with iran while we're trying to leave afghanistan in some sort of stable fashion well i think the other question that remains to be answered is really what the u.s. envisions for afghanistan and more importantly what afghanistan in vision is for afghanistan in the future meaning that obviously you know afghanistan asserts that it's going to be completely independent of the u.s. so do is america i guess for saying afghanistan's hand and havin
the hearing yesterday with chuck hagel being considered for secretary of defense and you once had this cheerleading of the sanctions as if they're sacrosanct as if they're this amazing policy that have done so many good things for us when in reality if you look at the last ten years of. u.s. policy on iran we haven't actually achieved a whole lot we've done a lot of things in terms of we can iran's economy and sort of ratcheting up the pressure but iran centrifuges are still still spinning...
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but i was-- it was a lousy performance by chuck hagel. he obviously decided he wasn't going get confrontational. when ted cruz, the junior senator from texas basically accused him of dishonesty, raised queionsboutis honor, and-- the idea that chuck hagel, that david and i know didn't say wait a minute, you know, and he did at the last question, i'm out of time now but let me ask you about this about your speeches and what you reported and didn't report. i mean at that point chuck hagel says let me tell you, you know, you've just raised a question, i don't care about time or time being out this is my time to tell you, you know, that you are absolutely wrong and-- and that was just missing completely. >> woodruff: so there is some reporting that hagel ths is deliberate stregy hassle's part. >> it was. >> woodruff: not to be con fron taetional you are saying if that is what it was t didn't work. >> the senators were awful. we just had the highest suicide rate in the history of the u.s. military. we had one senator joe done oly, most junior m
but i was-- it was a lousy performance by chuck hagel. he obviously decided he wasn't going get confrontational. when ted cruz, the junior senator from texas basically accused him of dishonesty, raised queionsboutis honor, and-- the idea that chuck hagel, that david and i know didn't say wait a minute, you know, and he did at the last question, i'm out of time now but let me ask you about this about your speeches and what you reported and didn't report. i mean at that point chuck hagel says let...
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. >> reporter: hood says he is departs and the washington is waiting to see if hagel will get the top spot at the pentagon. >> a net increase in the number of yes votes for the senator's confirmation since the hearing ended. >> reporter: but several republicans say he is not getting their vote because they can not reconcile his past statements and current stanceis on israel and iran. >> i don't intend to vote for him in the committee or on the senate floor. and this are just so many inconsistencies. >> the president's 2nd term shovel is wide-ranging, effecting the departments of labor, interior and the epa and cia. in washington, jennifer davis, fox news i. >>> for the first time the government is having a standard for high school lunches. making sure it is healthier so there is a guideline for fat, sugar and sodium levels, applying to srepding machines as well. sanfrancisco schools began the healthier food program last month. >>> today marks the 10th anniversary of the explosion shuttle "columbia." [music] >> hundreds tpwagtered to mark the somber anniversary. nasa officials and fami
. >> reporter: hood says he is departs and the washington is waiting to see if hagel will get the top spot at the pentagon. >> a net increase in the number of yes votes for the senator's confirmation since the hearing ended. >> reporter: but several republicans say he is not getting their vote because they can not reconcile his past statements and current stanceis on israel and iran. >> i don't intend to vote for him in the committee or on the senate floor. and this are...
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. >> this is a clip from chuck hagel's hearing yesterday. listen to senator james inhofe's source for his information. >> there is an article the other day in the "washington post" by jennifer rubin called "our dim witted state department." it's kind of an interesting article. >> michael, how do you get these guys to stop listening to the same wild conspiracy theories? they just live in a different world. >> i think it is a little bit of a different world in that sense. i don't get -- i don't get the direction and the messaging that the party is putting out this right now. i really honestly don't. i think that we really need to sort of step back from this thing and really assess exactly what do we need to focus on. is benghazi of all the things that are pressing the american people right now something that as a national party we should be fixated on. hillary clinton, yes, she served as secretary of state. did an admiral job. most people would say that. yeah, there was this hiccup with benghazi. we unfortunately lost the lives of four u.s. se
. >> this is a clip from chuck hagel's hearing yesterday. listen to senator james inhofe's source for his information. >> there is an article the other day in the "washington post" by jennifer rubin called "our dim witted state department." it's kind of an interesting article. >> michael, how do you get these guys to stop listening to the same wild conspiracy theories? they just live in a different world. >> i think it is a little bit of a different...
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senator hagel, key was had by the executive commission on china, but talk solely about development issues. rule of law and economic growth is fine. but that's not the job he's getting. he said absolutely nothing about the rise of china. he's also said absolutely nothing about he has had the defense department is going to do with the rise of china in an era of budget cuts to the defense department he supports. it's very troubling, fred has a great way of putting this consensus reality that in a sense it doesn't matter. so did not do the job better and you can take that for granted. japan for the first time in a decade has not just her and run defense budget, modestly $1.6 billion increase. it would be nice to see it continue, but everyone watches very carefully to see the leading indicator, which is us and what we're willing to do. taiwan is a country rushing to the exit to make sure nothing comes between it and china and therefore i would argue the same credibility over whether the united states would intervene and i taiwan strait scenario, but we can expect the support and could even see
senator hagel, key was had by the executive commission on china, but talk solely about development issues. rule of law and economic growth is fine. but that's not the job he's getting. he said absolutely nothing about the rise of china. he's also said absolutely nothing about he has had the defense department is going to do with the rise of china in an era of budget cuts to the defense department he supports. it's very troubling, fred has a great way of putting this consensus reality that in a...
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. >> republicans threatened to hold up chuck hagel's nomination this week over benghazi. next week there is more hearings. leon panetta, the outgoing secretary is going to testify there. secretary clinton already testified there. is there anything that can be done at this point by secretary panetta or anybody else to convince republicans that it wasn't a secret ghost ship to turkey or some other conspiracy? is there any way to fact chilly disprove what they want to believe about it? >> this is going to go down as one of the right-wing myths about america that are never going to die there are a certain core that are going to keep banging the drum. at some point perhaps someone will nudge the people who are pursuing this say we actually have real problems in north africa there is an intervention happening in mali. there are substantive issues on the table. stop talking about this. but it is so hermetically sealed in that world. >> yeah. >> that i don't see them getting out of it, other than someone making some sort of crass political judgment that this is no longer bringing
. >> republicans threatened to hold up chuck hagel's nomination this week over benghazi. next week there is more hearings. leon panetta, the outgoing secretary is going to testify there. secretary clinton already testified there. is there anything that can be done at this point by secretary panetta or anybody else to convince republicans that it wasn't a secret ghost ship to turkey or some other conspiracy? is there any way to fact chilly disprove what they want to believe about it?...